Saturday, November 12, 2011

The Romenesko Debacle

Wow, what a kerfuffle. Unsurprisingly, when you read only one or two posts--especially from the same source--you get a diluted sense of this situation.

The crux of the issue: Jim Romenesko, longtime blogger and journalist for Poynter, resigned recently due to criticism of mis-attribution. Apparently some of his posts were littered with the original authors' verbatim words, and were not in quotation marks.

One of the editors at Poynter, Julie Moos, is another key player here. Romenesko submitted his resignation to her (and probably whoever else represents her--it sounds like she's the media representative). Moos has come under fire all over Twitter for accepting his resignation; many journalists argue that Romenesko's deeds were not all that dastardly--he credited and linked his sources.

The furor here is huge. People love a good media fight. Who's right, Romenesko or Moos? Which side do you fall on?

Well, in my humble opinion, we're all fighting about the wrong question (at least given what I've learned about this debacle). I read several spinoff articles regarding this debate, and by far the most informative one is here, written by Columbia Journalism Review's Erika Fry--the woman who Moos credited for finding all those mis-attributions.

Fry makes several points here, including the following (though you should definitely read her whole article):

1. She was preparing to interview Moos about changes she had noticed at Poynter, and sent her questions to Moos in advance. From these questions, Moos went on to write a post that set the debate in motion.

2. Fry noticed problems with attributions with other Poynter staff, too--not just Romenesko.

3. Mis-attributions was only one of Fry's points: her bigger problem was the rise in "over-aggregation" by Poynter staff. When a significant percentage of an author's column is the verbatim quote of another writer--without much original insight--readers won't want to read the original article. Thus, Poynter gets all the traffic.

I'm sure if I kept reading the seemingly endless trail about this story, even more facts would come to light. But even after digging around for just a few minutes, I feel like many reactions--especially from the Twitterverse--are overblown and ill-focused.

This fight has been taken entirely out of context. And someone ended up losing a job over it. What a shame.

9 comments:

  1. And one more thing: The one thing I'd *really* like to know, I couldn't find anywhere: What does Romanesco have to say for himself? Does he think he was treated fairly? I mean, the guy tried to resign three times before succeeding--why?

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  2. Hi folks,
    never mind but "Romanesco" is an Italian salad, as far as I know,...
    sorry, but couldn't help it ;-))

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  3. HI Lauren,

    i apologize of r jumping threads here .. but I replied in part i=to your post in comments to Gerda's subsequent post.

    In part, i wrote, "As with many offenses, absent intent, improper attribution is not plagiarism.

    ...

    The dispute over Romenesko's alleged lack of proper attribution over at Poynter is, IMHO, specious. From what I read at a distance, an intent to deceive and take credit for others' work is the essential element, and that was not initially alleged or supported by the facts. In her post on Romenesko, Lauren points out there are, however, deeper layers to this story."

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  4. As Jim Romenescko would say to a fellow journalist, "A dart to you, it's RomEnescko"

    Hey... look at me -- the typo king, correcting you! The end times must be near! :)

    You asked, "And one more thing: The one thing I'd *really* like to know, I couldn't find anywhere: What does Romanesco have to say for himself? Does he think he was treated fairly? I mean, the guy tried to resign three times before succeeding--why?"

    R took the debate and criticism head-on, he asked on his fb page, "
    Have I ever summarized your posts? Was I fair, or did you feel I stole your words? Please let me know."

    If you check out R's fb wall (open to everyone, IIRC) you will find his comments and links to stories that round out a spectacle that -- as you point out -- involve three people Moos, Fry, and Romenescko, who are respected advocates of the highest ethics in journalism. Their styles differ. but at the end of the day, they are all out to advance journalism.

    Technically Moos and Fry have important points, IMHO, but Romenecko prevails on intent. Moreover, R

    R is going independent and launching JimRomenesko.com (he says by next month) You can also follow him on Twitter @romenesko . His fb site has links to many good stories that offer balance Moos and Fry.

    Angelia's post on this issue was corrupted on my phone (I'm on location in France) and so she might have already posted the Nieman Lab story and the other viewpoint posted below:

    http://www.niemanlab.org/2011/11/this-week-in-review-romeneskos-exit-turns-ugly-and-google-is-open-for-business/

    http://www.theawl.com/2011/11/the-intolerable-evolution-of-poynters-romenesko


    FWIW. I loved "kerfuffle" -- it's the perfect word. ;)

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  5. FYI: R's personal FB page is at http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=636884368

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  6. Ay, Romenesko! Thanks for the spelling catch--and I usually pride myself on decent spelling! I'll edit this post to fix that gaffe.

    Lee, thanks for pointing out other resources to check up on Romanesko's POV. I did see his Twitter account (though hadn't looked for him on FB); I guess I was hoping for an actual article with more fleshed out opinions and facts vs. smaller updates via social media. Someone should clearly do an article on this guy! :)

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  7. LOL -- you are always so careful in your writing! Not like me. These boxes are too small and my eyes no longer sharp without the glasses I refuse to wear. ;) Also my status as the typo king (confirmed almost daily in at least 50 letters written in five to seven languages with spell check off) allow me to rejoice in the rare find. I would not have mentioned it except that
    for all his fame, R still has to correct the spelling on his fb site. It's a common mistake made by friends and guests (even Pulitzer winners).

    Romenescko will save the good stuff for a book -- or to boost his new site. Why give it away for free? ;)

    R clearly felt wronged -- he was going to retire anyway in few weeks and this just rubbed him wrong. It is unbelievable he had no editorial oversight. Everyone needs a good editor. Shame on the editors at Poynter for that policy. Editors also protect writers.

    You were very perceptive that it was "over aggregation" that was the real issue with Fry and CJR -- and that IS an important issue for journalists and others in digital media to thrash out. No one has yet found all the right answers... it's still the wild west on the digital frontier

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  8. Interesting points all around. The Daily Northwestern just posted this brief interview with Jim Romenesko (and, of course, I will not incorrectly attribute the sources). Some good quotes regarding news aggregation and negative feelings toward the Huffington Post:

    http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/mobile/city/q-a-romenesko-s-departure-highlights-future-of-news-aggregation-1.2670038

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  9. A full account of the affair from Romenesko's perspective is now available on his new site at http://jimromenesko.com/

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